Brother Could You Spare An Idea? The 23 Pitch-Shifters

May 12th, 2006 | By: Johnny | 38 Comments »

Here’s the deciding list, and there are really no surprises.

Cha Du-Ri was less than useless during most of the qualifying run, and hardly did anything at Frankfurt from the moment he arrived there (although it is hard to shine in Germany). In fact, I was surprised that they even included him on the shortlist.

Will Lee Young-Pyo be healthy enough to start? Only time will tell. A lot of westerners here in Korea are betting against Korea, but in this group, I wouldn’t even place a dime on them either way. There are too many things that could go right or wrong.


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[...] SOUTH KOREA [...]

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Username By David | May 15th, 2006 at 11:22 am
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Hey there john,
I wish I could be there this year for the world cup.
I am not sure if they are going to do it this year or not but during 2002 they would turn entire intersections into a viewing area for the game with gaint TV screens for all to see.

I would also go to your local “HOF” in the area that has a big screen tv for you to watch the game with local korean people. Its a great time to be in korea win or lose.

Let me know if you want more information

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[...] SOUTH KOREA Few surprises, Lee Young-Pyo races against time to get healthy. [...]

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Username By sickemrex | May 15th, 2006 at 10:38 pm
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As a response to beb’s comment about Korea doing better than Japan we’ll have to see about that…I must admit that Japan has a much tougher draw than Korea (thats just their bad luck)

This probably is irrelevant but Japan did beat Korea 1-0 the last time they played even with out their European players.

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Username By NoNoboy | May 15th, 2006 at 11:43 pm
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Michael Youngmin Park :

Before 5th century, Korean had own ethnic names. It looks like Mongorialn name.
In 5th century, Korean was ocupied by Chinese dynasty and they changed their name like Chines.
In early 20 century, then changed their name like Japanese.
After WW2, they change back the names. Except 1,000,000 Korean lives in Japan keeps Japanese name.
Today, Korean lives in Western contries changes Western name.
It’s you.

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Username By NoNoboy | May 16th, 2006 at 2:19 am
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Michael Youngmin Park :

Korea had no public education system before Japanese occupietion.
There were several private schools and missionaly schools.
Japanese government held both Korean and Japanse classes from 1910 to 1937.
In addtion, Japanese government prohibit that Koreans get Japanese name until 1940.
In major years of occpietion, Japanese government considerd each ethinc self-supporting echonomy.
In those days, Japan was weaker then other Western powers. It is non-sence to kill colonial citizens!

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Username By superNova | May 16th, 2006 at 9:35 am
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Hey NoNoboy,
Superficially, it looks non-sense to others who don’t have specific historical knowledge like you, but it is based on historical fact as what Nazi had done during WW2. I don’t care how you think or explain about what happened during occupation, but don’t try to convince others who don’t know the truth. Just enjoy World Cup.

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Username By sickemrex | May 16th, 2006 at 7:10 pm
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superNova, NoNoboy is not trying to convince others of anything, he is just voicing his opinion, any everyone is entitle to his opinion ^_^ . But I totally agree with you lets all enjoy the world cup. I did not want to start an arguement all I wanted was that the the name “Samurai” be removed from the title of this subject as “Samurai” is Japanese not Korean. It seems to me like Greekfreek is implying (maybe) that Korean and Japanese are the same thing? Which offends both Koreans and Japanese. That was the point I was trying to make. It’s like calling the Greek National Football team the Azzuri??? Its a great word but I would not disrespect the Italians by calling the Greek team this… just my opinion

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Username By NoNoboy | May 17th, 2006 at 8:46 am
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superNova, sickemrex:
>Just enjoy World Cup.
YES Ofcource.

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Username By Michael Youngmin Park | May 17th, 2006 at 11:01 pm
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Before I even start: this entire blog is for the enjoyment of the best sporting event in the world and I don’t want this to spiral into a debate about international relations. However…

NoNoBoy:

You are right about several things. I admit that the Japanese occupation helped Korea’s economy and public education system. The country of Japan is very impressive in how far they have advanced and I know many decent Japanese people.

Yes, you are right. I am a westerner with an American name. I voluntarily have a Korean and American name.

The Japanese name changes were not voluntary: they were forced.

This does not change the fact that Japan did terrible things to Korea and Asia. This does not change the fact that Koreans should in no way be associated with the samurai.

Therefore:

Supernova…the “truth?” Let me lay it out for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_War_Atrocities

NoNoBoy, I am sorry that your people have to live with this history. I would be embarassed too. Please do not take this personally.

-worldCupFever

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Username By Michael Youngmin Park | May 17th, 2006 at 11:15 pm
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Please forgive me, this is the correct link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_War_Atrocities#War_crimes

Again, I beg your pardon.

Have fun watching the world cup!

-M

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Username By NoNoboy | May 18th, 2006 at 5:34 am
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Hi Micheal,
It is concluded a such simple question:
Whom do you believe, communist China, liberal Japan, or radial Korea?

There were about 300 victims of riot in Kanto daishinsai (Kanto earthquake) 1933.
Korean historian inflated to 2000-6000 victims. It included the eaarthquake and fire victimes.

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Username By NoNoboy | May 18th, 2006 at 5:36 am
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Sorry,

Whom do you believe, communist China, liberal Japan, or radical Korea?

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Username By Michael Youngmin Park | May 18th, 2006 at 11:12 am
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NoNoBoy:

Neither of us trust China. However, Japan is liberal because they HAVE to be. Which country in their right mind, especially the United States, would let them completely rearm?

Okay, I”ll be frank with you. I am an ivy league student who is minoring in East Asian relations. It’s not like I’m just basing all of these facts on wikipedia.

However, you will just keep asking me similar questions such as the one you just asked me, and I will keep citing facts and websites to disprove you. The cycle will not end, and I have a life to live.

Ultimately, this blog is not the place where such a discussion should be taking place. Neither of us will ever admit that we are wrong, so let’s just drop it.

Let’s enjoy the world cup. I’m willing to let this go. Enough of our people are bitterly embroiled in this fight anyway.

Still right, but being the bigger man:

Park Young Min (Michael)

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Username By NoNoboy | May 18th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
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Micheal:
If you stop posting Japan-Korea historical issue, I also do it.

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Username By Michael Youngmin Park | May 18th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
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Agreed. Enjoy the beautiful game.

-Park Young Min (Michael)

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Username By Steve Kim | May 22nd, 2006 at 9:50 pm
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Hey, while enjoying the worldcup, can we just change the subject? Can we just say 23 soccer players or something like that? I’m Korean and it’s so annoying and bothering.

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Username By Carrot | May 23rd, 2006 at 1:14 am
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Samurai is symbol Japanese worrior………
they are Korean, so Teaguk is right expression for them…

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Username By seon-hui | May 23rd, 2006 at 6:56 am
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“Samurai” is a wrong expression.

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Username By Dave Hamilton | May 23rd, 2006 at 9:51 am
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Gee guys, chill! You should be talking football and not unrelated history.

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Username By stevy | May 23rd, 2006 at 2:19 pm
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This is so stupid.
This is like calling SF Giants as SF A’s.

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Username By stevy | May 23rd, 2006 at 2:21 pm
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Then, talking about baseball. . .

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Username By stevy | May 23rd, 2006 at 5:25 pm
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Let’s call them “Red Tigers”

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Username By Greekfreak | May 24th, 2006 at 2:40 am
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Okay, since I only got one suggestion and (no offense Stevy) didn’t think much of it, the heading has been changed.

For those of you who are quick to assume cultural ignorance on my part, believe me I know more on the topic of the Japanese occupation of Korea than most students in this country. In my opinion, Korea outperformed Japan in the previous World Cup and hence were more deserving of the title ‘Samurai’. Many Christians were up in arms about the nickname ‘Red Devils’. Nothing is going to please everybody, and I certainly didn’t intend to start a cultural debate. It’s just a word, and it’s easily erased.

If I had my druthers, I’d call them the ‘23 pink-slips’, but then I might be offending the unemployed. That’s the last word from me; enjoy the tournament and hold your banners high.

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Username By Lafayette | May 24th, 2006 at 9:51 am
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Greekfreak,

Call them Taegguk warriors–that has a nice ring to it and is culturally correct. And if you worry that no one will understand who they are, you can change that by using it a lot. And given how popular your blog is, I bet it will catch on soon.

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